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Subject: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:53 pm
I know this can be a touchy subject for a lot of people. Please take this topic completely seriously and respond with your reasoning as to WHY you think it should be or should not be legal. Please respect other's opinions and do use personal attacks as a way of discussion.
:Also doing things cause of the catfishing going on with you fegs. <.<
Apparently in the US 36 states allow gay marriage. Personally I dislike the term gay marriage, since it is just marriage between two people, but it is needed for this discussion. I cannot wait for the day that all 50 allow it. Marriage is a basic human right and I feel like we need to get with the times here. We should be over this oppression and everyone should be treated equally with equal rights.
I know, a lot of those who are against it will say that it is against their religion. Well that may be so but even if it is against your views, why should you be against allowing those who want it to get married? As long as it is not effecting you personally I do not see a reason to harm those who want to participate in this.
As for people saying it is unnatural, same sex relations have been happening between animals for a lot longer than us humans.
A lot of people will also say that it is unhealthy for same sex couples to raise children. Well there have been a few studies that found that children raised by same sex couples are actually healthier and happier. http://thinkprogress...er-and-happier/
Remember- for a long time interracial couples were not allowed to marry because it was "unnatural". I think we are progressing a lot in these last few decades but we still have a long way to go until everyone has equal rights.
Feel free to discuss your reasons for and against this openly. Please be willing to listen to everyone's opinion.
I 100% think it should be legal everywhere.
If you don't like it don't participate in it. Do not take this away from others just because you don't like it
A quote from a nigga called Rob Thomas "The support of legalizing gay marriage is in no way meant to change the ideals of the section of Christians who believe that homosexuality is a sin. But we should refuse to let other people's ideals shape the way we live our lives. Each of us has a short ride on this earth and as long as we stay in our lane, and don't affect someone else's ride, we should be allowed to drive as we see fit. "
http://www.huffingto...h_b_208183.html
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:02 pm
Amen. Being gay myself I don't find it a touchy topic, i just see it as a forgotten one. It's nice to see some people actually care. Governments just see it as a waste of time, I doubt anyone here will be against it unless they're trolling though. The only somewhat valid point i could ever see from someone against same sex marriage, is about the child being bullied for it at school. So we ''shouldn't be allowed to adopt.''(or have a surrogate mother) A point i'd like to make about this is, yeah I would never want my child to be bullied. but they wouldn't be being bullied by any gay people would they? if a straight persons argument of us not being able to adopt is that you're going to bully our kids... Then you're seriously fucked up. I know this is going on a bit of a tangent but same sex marriage is legal in the UK, so I don't feel weighed down on it anymore. But yeah, some states definitely need to get there head of of their asses.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:04 pm
I think it should be allowed, but the thing is, people are afraid it will prevent people from giving birth to a new generation, but they are entirely incorrect. They probably don't believe in donations, or the fact that in China, there is a LAW, to keep the population perfect, so in a way, this is helpful, so whoever thinks against it, just don't get caught in it. If the U.S is truly a free state, then show it. Don't fear population decreasing, we already have too many humans on this planet, which is why we need to shove some people into the ocean. I have a lot of friends that are gay, so I take it as an insult, might as well revert back to slavery in America.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:15 pm
I support this for two reasons: 1) Right and wrong are subjective to ones mind and therefore this isn't a matter where I would look into religion being an Atheist myself. 2) This world needs population control. We have limited resources bringing more children just means a worse quality of life for everyone.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:57 pm
i don't agree
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:22 pm
This is a pretty gay topic.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:25 pm
:3. rawr.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:29 pm
This is so gay -,- why th fuck even do it. Just to bear people say i care...... is it so important
Oh and i dont agree with it cuz boys have dicks and woman have vigina. U simply match those. And not go dick x dick or Vagina x Vagina. It wrong.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:43 pm
nb4 he copied it from DNF :p
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:53 pm
Tbh....we in america argue about the dumbest shit like this....of course there should be same sex marriage...one of my cousins is getting married but not trying to be biased but cmon people this is easy
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:47 pm
What is wrong with some people in this academy -_-
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:53 pm
Ok,I rarely bring my religion into this but here we go,it was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.Now I'm not bashing anyone's anyways way of life,to each his own but regardless,I'm against it pure and simple.Do I believe people should live free,of course I do.I support cannabis legalization,I support gay rights,etc.But gay marriage no just no.Like I said I'm not bashing anyone but as long as God created this place,I'll be against it.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggQqUyLrCM For people that are using religion as an argument against this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIcrCZQkSlg To people that think it isn't biologically right ("penis in vagina") etc.
Ricky Gervais is a comedian, These links make it more interesting to watch, just want to point out that neither I nor he, are against religion or religious people, just showing that I believe religious people shouldn't be against same-sex marriage.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:57 pm
none of its true tho
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:59 pm
If you don't think it's true research it for yourself. Now you just seem ignorant.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:01 pm
Reason is kalin, that god doesn't exist :O
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:02 pm
Prove that he doesn't? you have no evidence to support your argument.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:07 pm
That's a belive I don't have to have proof of it, if am not showing anyone something wrong :O
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:09 pm
ok ill even quote devin on as this since ik like me,he's had a near death experience,"If there wasn't a god,I'd be dead 1000x over."If you want proof there's a god,look at your own money,the prrof is eerywhere,you'll just never realize it.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:10 pm
The dude btw does satrical comedy,I'd believe a cop before I believe him
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:13 pm
I posted that link because it's more interesting than a page of writing. If you want i'll send you valid links. I just don't understand why religious people are for gay rights but not gay marriage. the bible says nothing against them getting married. Only that if a man was to lie with a man as he should a woman that he shall be doomed.
and ok hisoka if that's your belief that's fine, just don't say it as fact
I just want to know a Valid reason why we shouldn't
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:38 pm
Crow Hogan wrote:
Prove that he doesn't? you have no evidence to support your argument.
i mean... do you have proof that god DOES exist? Cuz you know... i have the theory of evolution.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:15 pm
All the theory of evolution proves wrong is Creationism. That has nothing to do with a God. Don't associate passages in any holy book, as to the existence of a God, even most religious people don't do that.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:52 pm
You May Call Me Sir wrote:
Crow Hogan wrote:
Prove that he doesn't? you have no evidence to support your argument.
i mean... do you have proof that god DOES exist? Cuz you know... i have the theory of evolution.
Sir i would like you to review what you wrote just now, and understand that while i am not defending nor supporting the creationist point of view, i am asserting that, by nature, the THEORY of evolution is just that, a THEORY. When you equate how the process of natural selection functions as well as how DNA functions, you will often find that, aside from mutations, all the necessary traits are present in predecessors for those who inherit those genes, that do survive natural selection, to survive.
To make it simpler, or put it in layman's terms; Species do not "magically" adapt to their environment, or changes in it. Those who are more adapted to a change in the environment, are "naturally selected" by process of elimination, however, those specimens, came from the previous family that died out, so there is not "new" genetic information, only the variants that came from a certain group within the offspring. They are still the same animal, in essence, and always could have been that animal, however, previous to whatever created their advantage in the wild, they were at a disadvantage, for not being the same as their parents.
IE; evolution occurs within a set limit of changes and while the combinations of traits in possible offspring are immense, they are not infinite. A duck will always be a duck, no matter how it changes its appearance.
While we are on this topic i'd like to present something for all of you to watch and consider, it's probably one of the best debates i've watched. It deals with opposing viewpoints on Creationism and Evolution.
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Subject: Re: Same Sex marriage Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:56 pm
Lol, do you have to always copy things from other sites? >_>