Was Yugi-oh better before XYZ?

So,my question is simple,is not that i dont like xyz, i just think that the game started to degenerate with them.

The previous generation(the sync generation) was all about the skill,not about the decks.U had players doing wicked combos,decks like BW,X-sabers,Morphs,Junk they were all based on skill but in the current meta gamining any noob can buy a tier 1 deck and still manage to get a top spot on a regional tourney.



Xyz just started slowly getting more and more broken, and now it's literally at the point where you can't even make any monster without losing it the next turn.



Just by having a pure lvl 4 deck u gain access to:

-A Judgment Dragon (Exciton Knight)
-A Foolish Burial/stack anything (Lavalval Chain)
-A Tiramisu (Castel)
-A Big Eye/Maestroke mix (Honor ARK)
-A semi Scrap Dragon (Diamond Dire Wolf)
-An Ehren (Evigishki Mertowgeist)
-A Wattgirraffe type thing (Heartlanddraco)
-A Soul Drain (Abyss Dweller)

And honestly, anything you could ever need to win a game at any situation. And for some reason Konami feels they're all fine and healthy for the game.


I honestly think Xyz have been way too overpowered compared with Synchro and Fusion, and it's honestly what I think is continually making the game more and more unfair and degenerate.

agreed, Trap stun OTK the shit out of ur opponent with Saberz is one tough thing xD

just wait for pendulum and everyone wil say the same thing about them...

it wasn't better... Pendulums coming-broken game

Pendulum is broken but is a whole new mechanics,and its 2 soon to talk about them,we will see how that goes.Still 4 me the Sync era was the best of YGO

xyz is good because most of the deck can use it.....

synchro also like xyz before, at that time , even your deck never have tuner, there will still fill their deck with synchro monster(sometimes they can use monster reborn to get a tuner from opponent)

at that time, many player think synchro is not fair at all==

but many good synchro monster like stardust dragon still can do what xyz cannot do.
(stardust dragon is weak, but not longer weak if you use assault move activate to your stardust dragon)

xyz is better than synchro because some deck never have a tuner......

Yeah, most of what you said is true Patrick, but Monster Reborn is banned, so that won't be seeing much play; and you need to base a deck around assault mode pretty much. Now, it depends if you are just in general pitching XYZ against Synchro; if this is the case, then I think XYZ is better as some decks don't have tuners, but if you're pitching decks that use synchro against decks that use XYZ then I think it's a grind, and it's 50:50.

Well I think konami knows this very well and they are trying to reach a balance between xyz, fusion, synchro and ritual. XYZ is atm the best summon method and the most easy one but konami created shaddolls and somehow fusion is reaching xyz and is being playable, also they created necloths which is going to bring ritual on top with xyz and fusion. Synchro is not that good yet but I think konami is going to do something about it so this 4 summoning methods can be in the same rank and ofc I can't forget pendulum with qliphoth also there will be different archetypes in the future so I believe that this 5 summoning methods one day will be on the same rank so yugioh can become enjoyable again

I freaking hope so. So bored of this game being ruined! xD

Well, they're bringing out a new structure deck
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Structure_Deck:_Synchron_Extreme
With a decent boss monster:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Stardust_Warrior

With this atlas says i think he is right.The game is better without XYZ.

Is not about wheter u have tuners or not,in the synchro era,the decks were based on skill,u might have a tier 1 plant deck,but if u dont know the ins and outs the tricks and if u dont have the imagination to pull the combos u might never win a duel,the current meta play is kinda autoplay,u have like 3 things u must know about the deck and with that u can win any tourney,no skill,no fun.But i hope this change in the future,and i might sound like a hater but i wish they never invetend the pen summon,he game was unbalanced enough with xyz and now they add another game mechanics that will send the balance into oblivion once again,i hope konamis figures out at some point that u dont need to add a new thing each time an anime is released,take the GX example,they were great and they didnt added any new features

Tbh syncs were the skill era this era nabz can use double summon then get their xyz

Honestly i think XYZ was a good option to go with next. Though konami's greed is what makes it not soo good. They started with decently balanced cards but after time they just became more and more OP because konami just wants that money and those cards that are mentioned are like 40-70+ dollars each about now. So its the greed of the opness that made it bad for the game.

same but ialso think that syrnchos were good along with the xyz konami added them so they could make more money.

Hero wrote:

Tbh syncs were the skill era this era nabz can use double summon then get their xyz

You don't need double summon to make an XYZ... xD

I've seen nab do it trust me it happnes

Yeah, it probably does, but like... the minority do that. The majority don't need to put it in a deck just to make an XYZ. xD

I agree. If only they couldn't make them (xyz) so overpowered like that, xyz also relies on special summoning. What im trying to say is that usually people today can wipe out all your monsters quickly when you cant even xyz summon. Sometimes its a waste, sometimes it not.

Seems unbalanced,the xyz monster are 2 easy to summon and have brutal effs,u might put ur brains out and summon a quasar dragon and any lvl 4 spam deck would overplay him in 2 seconds,with less card cost and with more benefits

Okay. Let's go back to a time when Yata-Chaos, Dimension Fusion DAD and Tele-DAD, Gladiator Beasts, Rescue Cat Sabers, Perfect Circle, Plants, and very important to note, Solemn Judgment at 3 was legal.

omfg that solemn judgemnt would be so OP nowadays if it was at 3

Bluefur wrote:

omfg that solemn judgemnt would be so OP nowadays if it was at 3

considering wiretap is a card, im gonna disagree

Also, ^ to everything Rusty pointed out. Like seriously, no matter what meta you go to there have been balls-retarded decks that people claimed took no skill, way before synchro and xyz became a thing. I'll also have you notice that making xyz takes 2+ monsters just like fusion summons, and synchros, and that the really good ones are archetype specific, just like synchro and fusion
TL;DR: you're foolish if you think that xyz have ruined this game. If anything xyz have enhanced the choices that primarily synchro based decks can use. On top of that you don't have to run shitty tuners that don't do much for you on their own to make xyz. What's really ruining the game is the imbalance of the staples konami is making now. Soul charge is probably the most ridiculous card ive seen them print alongside rekindling and infern launcher.

Crimson sunbird was at 3 and it is still at 3 because he does not care about the banlist. So like who even needs xyz when they can just rape with sunbird?

like birds much? (no offense)