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Do you agree with this move?
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PostSubject: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:51 pm

North Academy might be moving to a new place. we might be using a whole new server. We're going to leave forummotion, perhaps forever.

http://northacademy.infinitygrounds.com/


This is the new academy link. Of course it isn't done yet. But this is how it is shaping.

What do you all think of this? Do you approve moving?

Your comment is very important, fatal and crucial to the fate of this academy. Please state your reasons as well to why you want the academy to move or to not move.

Thank you.



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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:53 pm

Well, I wasn't told the full details of why we were moving, but I do know that it's because your paying for this server and it's not providing everything it can. The move may take time to get used to or get comfortable with, but I'm all for it.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:01 pm

Restarting is a painful process, it's a maybe-maybe situation, I honestly believe it would take a year at the least to get NA back to its original state, I feel like we should stay, after all nothing is better than the original.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:15 pm

my reason:forumotion is kind of overrated. also the chatbox is gitchy as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:37 pm

I would like to just put some of this into context for everyone so that everyone may form their opinion on it a bit easier;

Admin Gains from the move;
-Massively better ACP (admin control panel}
-Tighter security.
-Worth the money being paid, unlike this place.
-Much more appealing to new members.

Member Gains from the move;
-Private messaging in the chatbox.
-Wider range of profile customization.
-"Status" updates.
-Much more appealing to new members. (Will help make our community bigger)
-Better organisation. (Makes everything easier to find)

etc etc.

This new place in my opinion would be for the better of North Academy and though it would require for the most part, starting from scratch, it will be worth it. This will set us apart from fellow academies and hopefully boost our numbers rather quickly, we will do our best to salvage what we can from NA, to my understanding so don't hold me to that, and we will be paying for a much better service. This should hopefully kind of pitch the idea a bit better to you guys.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:39 pm

Well what about out affiliates? Who will be in charge of telling the, of our move?
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:52 pm

When this vote is over and if the vote passes to move and we proceed with the move, and administrator or even Kalin himself will inform out affiliates of the move.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:28 am

imo this is a big risk, but if most members agree then il flow with it.

But personally, I really think this is a risk not worth taking.


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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:45 am

I'm not really keen on the idea of moving but if its for the good of the forum I'm down.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:40 am

I said no because it's just a HUGE loss to data, peoples DP, their shops, their signatures and custom ranks, redoing the codes, remaking everything they've done, everything.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:47 am

same here tho about the data loss, and got deleted twice so i gave up on it >.<
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:52 am

I'm definitely against this move.

I feel like this move is very unnecessary. This place has shown much stability is the recent time. I don't see any necessary reason for us to move.  

Sure, we might be getting a better security, better ACP, as for the admin gain. I don't think this current ACP is causing trouble. The security is currently also very fine and it is not like we're being exposed to hacking. The place is pretty fine.


On the other hand for the members, I don't really see that the members would gain much. It's just the chatbox which will probably be finer than this one, because this one is glitch y at times.

The move would be very risky for the academy. The academy is going very fine and we're not having troubles. The move might cause members to leave (as to why this post is made anyways). It will be harder to recruit as well. Many data will be lost. Posts, topics and many stuff.

The move is a very big risk I think we shouldn't take, because moving the first place is very unnecessary.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:56 am

against, please dont waste the time, i dont know what will happen too if we move.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:53 am

Are you guys actually fucking serious? You're giving it no because you can't be bothered or you just don't want to risk it? Let me give you a quote on risks "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." It's like pushing one's potential, the ones who become famous aren't the ones that stop because they are sweating profusely, it's the ones who stop until they LITERALLY can't go on any more. For the betterment of the academy overall you need to take risks.

Now people will of course be saying what's the point there's not much more we can get out of it. My response is organization and looks can mean A LOT. I've personally just afked at acads several times because I just don't like they how work or how they look or how messy they are. Nothing to do with how good the community is or how the admins work. Maybe that's just me, however I doubt there isn't anyone else out there that takes my views on things.

Also JD said MASSIVELY better admin panel. Using the word massively means that it's a lot better, making the academy as a whole just a lot better. You can't fucking use the excuse of "It's fine as it is." That's the excuse of cowards, losers and just downright people with no ambition. Do you think 10-15 active members makes this academy fucking godlike or amazing? I don't think so, and if we honestly tried our hardest we could probably double that amount quickly.

Now onto my next point, it will not take a year to get NA back to its original state. We can save gfx (I'll personally bookmark every gfxers work if I have to), and dp isn't hard to return. Just state how much you have and an admin will put it back on the new panel. Codes can be redone and I'm assumign data can be saved or something. Remember I'm no fucking wiz kid on codes or technology in general so don't blame me if it's a lot harder then what I made it out to be, however for the betterment of the academy I think only someone who's lazy would give that sort of excuse.

With the old topics, they're irrelevant. I don't fucking go back to the old topics and be like "ahh, I just love looking at random, useless and fucking irrelevant topics. It's just 2 good." Maybe you do, it's you life and I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but don't think others think the same as you.

If you honestly think stability is the way to go, I can't really stop yall, however if you can't be bothered or are scared to take the risks you'll never be able to reap the loot. Any people who are truly dedicated to the acad will stay, and that's all we really need to have. From that we can branch out, recruit more and make the academy better. Also who the fuck actually just said recruiting will be harder. I will find you, and kill you.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:14 am

I see you are making valid points troller but I doubt if you put a wall of text like that you will change the opinion of others. Everybody has their own reasons of what they think about the subject you dont need to get all rambo on them just bcuz they dont comply with yours.If you want to share your opinion do it with respectfully..
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:21 am

tbh all that hazmah said in that essay was that we should take risks because risk-takers are successful in life.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:58 am

People are voting for no because of having to redo everything, but that won't be down to you guys, that will be down to us admins and we only started working on it a few days ago and we've already come unbelievably far.

What you guys should take into consideration is how much is being paid to run this place for a service that isn't all that great. We could be paying a similar amount on the IPB forum and gain a HUGELY better service. This move is the best thing for the academy right now, we all know we can't run North Academy on this server forever and while we have the opurtunity we might as well.

This chance might not come round again.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:03 am

You only started working on it? There's like 20 members there, and like, 9 of them were test accounts and were deleted. It doesn't matter if you're only staarting on it now, you'll still have to do every single member individually. We've been running it fine here so far.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:07 am

Yes, we only started on it a few days ago, and the majority of those members are test accounts. What you need to take into consideration is WE, the admins, will have a lot to do, not YOU the members. All you guys have to do is transfer to the new forum and make a new account and carry on posting there as you would here, the rest is up to US.

As far as we can work out the main reason for not moving is because you guys want to maintain your DP and post count, but the DP can be transferred over for all active members. The amount that's being paid for this academy is a lot for such a crappy service when we could be paying a good amount for a much better service in IPB.

Let me ask members this, apart from saying "It's a lot of effort", what are the legit reasons for NOT moving to an upgraded and better forum?
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:10 am

So what if a member from a while ago comes on, say... Atlas. Whattd he do? Everyone knows NA as red themed NA, not grey vomit. And don't get me started on the admins, I see Ebil mabye 2 or 3 times a day. I haven't even seen you, JD, all day, mani is active, phantom is increasingly inactive, and Idk what of kalin and striker. As far as I can see, the staff team would rather duel 24/7 instead of actually working. Do you thing this fourm would still be like this if the staff put half as much time in here as they do on DN?
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:11 am

You're failing to give me valid reasoning on why the move should not happen. I haven't been on because I have college to go to and I hardly play on DN anymore I use it mainly for talking to other members or admins, which we won;t have to do on the new forum because the main chat has a private chat option for all members.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:12 am

looks like DNF lol if we do move this will be like the 4th-5th time
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:13 am

We haven't moved to an IPB forum before and paid for such a good service.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:13 am

But JD, that chat is so stupid. Not only are people fooled into thinking no one can see their private CB pm's, but people don't realise the admins can still see what they're saying, so it's not much better than fourmations PM.
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PostSubject: Re: North Academy...New Server?   Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:15 am

It's a much better chat than the current one and admins will not be spying on your conversations unless something is reported and we are required to look.
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