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PostSubject: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyMon Dec 28, 2015 2:34 pm

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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Amazing_Pendulum

This card although it seems broken, is balanced since in order to activate this card, 2 or more pendulum monsters must be in the extra deck.

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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 11:17 am

If you spam, I don't think you should write an apology and continue to spam...
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 11:17 am

btw since you wanted to use scout im not going to double check scout eff so if im wrong im wrong w,e

Act summoner art search scout scout search another zone act zone wavering add another pendy act this act scout search scout go off ?
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 11:17 am

It's not equal to pend call, because Pend call has additional effects as well.

Pendulum call;


Discard 1 card; add 2 "Magician" Pendulum Monsters with different names from your Deck to your hand, also, until the end of your opponent's next turn after this card resolves, "Magician" cards in your Pendulum Zones cannot be destroyed by card effects. You can only activate 1 "Pendulum Call" per turn. You cannot activate this card if you activated a "Magician" monster's Pendulum Effect this turn.

The effect for a none broken Amazing Pendulum would realistically be something like;

If you have no cards in your Pendulum Zones: Discard 1 card; Add 2 face-up Pendulum Monsters from your Extra Deck to your hand. You can only activate 1 "Amazing Pendulum" per turn.

This balances it out, isnt nearly as good as Pendulum Call, and would still be relevant.
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 11:21 am

1 more effect isn't additional effects.... Also it's one flipping effect. In the situation you use this card during mid-lategame then it's a guranteed otk, unless you're opponents playing something like fucking maj specters. It can be comboed with wavering that card qli's used to use to get rid of scout etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 11:32 am

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1 more effect isn't additional effects.... Also it's one flipping effect. In the situation you use this card during mid-lategame then it's a guranteed otk, unless you're opponents playing something like fucking maj specters. It can be comboed with wavering that card qli's used to use to get rid of scout etc.

We know it can be used with wavering eyes, we already mentioned this and you had a tantrum over the fact I mentioned it.

Seriously bro, a discard effect and only being able to use it once per turn means it won't always be a great top deck. It could be a dead draw if you draw it and have nothing to discard. I can't see how you have a problem with this, but not Pendulum Call, Pendulum Call lets you add from the deck and you can't destroy them when they're in the Pendulum Zones... This card means you can only choose from what's in your extra deck and quite often, you'll only have maybe 2 or 3 in your extra because people xyz with them...

Trust me, if you have anything more than a discarding cost, you've killed the card and it's no longer relevant.
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Yes I've thought over it and agree, but discard won't do anything to it. I'm done arguing though, if this card ever comes to tcg we'll see who's right and who's wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 12:44 pm

Discard and once per turn, will do enough to balance it out and keep it relevant.
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i would prefer of the cost is to target 2 pendulum cards in the extra deck
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 1:43 pm

Well if Konami released this card then it'd be costless. Do you really think Konami will ever release a balanced card?
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 4:14 pm

I can think of plenty of balanced cards...
Pot of Duality
Upstart Goblin
Lightning Vortex
Monster Reincarnation
Solar Recharge
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

The list could go on, but I can't be bothered to name them.

Obviously this card would have a cost unless they were prepared to emergency limit/ban it.
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Were any of those cards released by Konami recently? I'm not talking about cards made years and years ago. I'm talking about now. So far every card they've made is either op or sucks. Unless they're archtype specific.
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PostSubject: Re: Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card?   Amazing Pendulum-should koonami release this card? - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 29, 2015 4:27 pm

Solemn Notice? That's coming out soon and is pretty balanced as far as I can see.

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It's a better Solemn Warning... At 3
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It's not broken, is it?
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I never stated any card was broken. People abuse the term broken. Broken means it literally is so op that it breaks the game, but yeah. It's op, not broken.
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How is it OP? It costs 1500DP to activate and no one will run it at 3, they'll run 1 or 2 at the most.
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Maybe cos it negates ANY monster effect and still retains the ss thing?
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So if a card is considered "good" it makes it OP? It's still costs 1500lp and I think we all remember when we had warning at 2 and judgment at 1, I think this is nothing in comparison to what we've had i n the pst, if you consider this OP, then you should stop playing rated.. xD
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So if a card is considered "good" it makes it OP? It's still costs 1500lp and I think we all remember when we had warning at 2 and judgment at 1, I think this is nothing in comparison to what we've had i n the pst, if you consider this OP, then you should stop playing rated.. xD

It's a better solemn at 3. It is OP. Also if solemn at 2 and Judg at 1 was a good format, then consider notice at 3 when it's better. kinda contradictory.
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Except I don't see this being better? At the most, I will play 1 warning and 1 notice, I'll ever play mroe because it's not worth it, the lp cost is still too big to run at 3.
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It's cheaper and negates ANY monster effect. Not just ss and it still retains the anti SS effect.
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Looks like the extra hope to saving Qli's Lol
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Hmm, maybe Qlis will see more play if this becomes a thing, but I dunno, I guess we'll find out when and if it comes to TCG.
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I don't know if it would be a card that would be run in every Pendulum deck. I could see Ignights running it. It seems to be at least sort of balanced.
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Although it might be easily countered, might I add.


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