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PostSubject: another pic...   Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:50 am

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man..... why  i keep meeting with this kind of player..
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PostSubject: Re: another pic...   Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:30 am

He is right.
Its about timing
If he discarded a spell and then u activated fiendish chain then he would have had the discard but not the ss

If you do it before he discards then he does not have to discard

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PostSubject: Re: another pic...   Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:21 am

it is obvious that i do it after he discard a spell......
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PostSubject: Re: another pic...   Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:29 am

Just telling you since in the screenshot i do not see a spell in his grave -__-
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PostSubject: Re: another pic...   Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:08 pm

The discard is a cost, the monster doesn't get special summoned until resolution of the effect, after cost is paid. If you interrupt the effect after the discard the effect doesn't go through. So chaining fiendish after cost is paid = spell card lost and no special. Easiest way to know the cost, or requirements of a card needed for activation, look for the semicolon. Not every card that has a cost will have one, but if you see one, it is often displayed after a cost, or requirement. For others, who you come across, who have no idea what they are doing, just explain to them what a cost is. That usually does the trick for me when the situation pops up.

To clarify for this situation, timing is a thing, but not once he states he is activating the effect of summoner monk. Once he states that, he has to pay the cost, or at least that is how it is suppose to play out. Obviously any other point prior could leave you to interrupt the card before hand, like switching it to defense or using chain during another game state, that didn't have his cost come into play. For the sake of not typing a wall though, yes, if he states the effect activation, he needs to pay the cost.
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PostSubject: Re: another pic...   Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:06 pm

1)the way he explain is:

a)discard is not a cost
 my respond, show link(discard is a cost is proven)

b)even discard is a cost, i no need to discard if effect is negated..... quit(cannot accept second link i think, but i think it will going to be like this anyway......

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show him the solemn warning link( still need to pay 2000, still need to discard is proven

trust me, he will speak like this: solemn warning is different with summoner monk......

this one is better, unlike that kozmo player...... who call me a noob to show he win
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